Soundcheck: Dirt, Water in the Sky, Dog Log, Roggae

SET 1: Julius, Roggae, Llama, Limb By Limb, Driver[1], Sleep[1], Frankie Says, Birds of a Feather, McGrupp and the Watchful Hosemasters > Character Zero

SET 2: Possum > The Moma Dance > Reba[2] -> Walk Away -> Simple > Albuquerque, David Bowie

ENCORE: Something[3]


Driver and Sleep were performed acoustic. Moma contained a Super Bad tease from Trey. Reba did not have the whistling ending. Walk Away was played for the first time since May 7, 1994 (368 shows). This show marked the Phish debut of The Beatles’ Something.
Teases
Super Bad tease in The Moma Dance
Debut Years (Average: 1996)

This show was part of the "1998 Fall Tour"

Show Reviews

, attached to 1998-10-29

Review by JesusFreak

JesusFreak This was my very first show. It's hard to put into words how much of a surreal heavenly experience it was. Every moment was magic. The band was on fire on this night, their playing was so tight. This show had all the energy of a tour opener, but without any of the rust. The band was already in tip-top form, as they had been playing a lot of random gigs in the weeks leading up to this tour...

Set 1 - Julius is flawless, perfect. From that point on, I would never be the same. On paper, Roggae seems strange in the 2nd spot of the opening set, but it truly worked well on this night, in the intimate beautiful setting of the LA Greek. The band then changes gears lightning fast with Llama. This Llama rages pretty hard and is honestly a little scary. I think it sounds how insanity probably feels. Then it's right back to beautiful music again, with Limb by Limb. It's a lovely version with a really cool ending, in which Trey goads Fish to keep going until he really goes all out with the drumming finale. The 2 acoustic songs are really great, and I think it's safe to say that everyone loves both Driver & Sleep. All the banter between the band members in this set was a really special memory for me, given that it was my first experience seeing this band live. The whole show had such an intimate feel to it. Frankie Says was haunting and cool, and was followed by a Birds of a Feather that is furious and totally flawless. An A+ version of Birds. McGrupp is gorgeous, and Page takes this one on a bit of a journey, before a rip-roaring Zero punctuates the set.

Set 2 - Even to this day, I still feel this is one of the best sets of music I've ever heard the band play. I return to these tapes often. Possum is good for sure, but the meat of this set really begins with Moma. This Moma is absolute butter. So smooth, so creamy, I just wanna spread it all over my toast. The Reba that follows is an exceptionally rare type II version that launches into outer space before hard rocking its way back to Earth and transitioning flawlessly into Walk Away. Of course, at that time, I didn't know it was the first Walk Away since 5/7/94, but it's pretty cool knowing that now. Trey absolutely shreds this Walk Away jam, and then the band launches seamlessly into Simple. The transition from Walk Away>Simple is one of the most seamless transitions I've ever heard the band make. It's like the 2 songs became one on that night. Simple peters out gorgeously into the most hauntingly intimate version of Albuquerque I've ever heard. This Albuquerque is perfectly placed, as is the Bowie that follows. I love this Bowie. Like so much of this set, this Bowie is haunting and beautiful, and Trey absolutely shreds it. Then, after a set like this one, it only made sense for the band to come out for the encore and play another hauntingly beautiful tune. Something was exactly that, flawless, haunting, beautiful, and unexpected.

Looking back on that night, I remember sitting there after the encore was over, with my jaw dropped and my mind blown. My buddy and I just sat there wide-eyed in silence for a few minutes before we eventually stood up to depart. I had never heard music like that before. This show definitely changed my life.
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Review by ADAWGWYO

ADAWGWYO 10/29/98 LA Greek- Fairly well known for it's atypical and exceptional Reba. It gets a bit spacey in the middle of the jam and then they tighten it up into this evil driving force that slowly evolves into the first Walk Away since the Bomb Factory 94.

The sound at the Greek is some of the best outdoor sound I have ever heard. It is surrounded on all sides by pines so the music shoots past you and is absorbed by the trees. Very clean sound, and you can hear it on the tapes. The slow songs seem to fit well here. I enjoyed Driver and Albuqurque in the quaint atmosphere. It's only 8000(?) people I believe. The Moma is so deep, thumping, and funky. Page's piano solo during McGrupps sounds really great here too.

Sidenote: i was still searching for my Halloween ticket when I showed up in LA. Well, for parking they stack cars on this sweet wooded lawn in Griffith Park next to the venue. Makes for some equally quaint tailgate for the show. Anyways, drinking beers I came across a guy with an extra. Haggled with him for a while and got the ticket for: 1 new bubbler, an extra for tonight(10/29), and 50 bucks.
He got me good, but man were those Vegas tickets a bitch to get back in the day. It was a good show. I partied hard and drove past the 11/2 Dark Side show on my way home. Broke and meek.

D'oooooohhh
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Review by MiguelSanchez

MiguelSanchez this is one of my all time favorite shows. the second set is just phenomenal. the first set is a little up and down, but the second set more than makes up for it.

julius is a pretty solid opener. not my favorite song, but hey... roggae is played well, but this one still does not do it for me. especially 2 songs into the show. llama picks everyone up, and the band sounds sharp on this one. trey sounds even more nimble in the limb by limb that follows. driver, sleep, and frankie says slow things down a bit. i really like frankie says, but not so much after driver and sleep. birds picks things up for a minute before they jump into a very good version of mcgrupp. now we're talking. page sounds wonderful on this one, as he always does. zero, like julius, is not my favorite song but hey...

after pretty much playing a throw away first set, with the exception of mcgrupp, they come out blazing in the second set. a nice deep bluesy possum really rocks to open up. trey sounds great in possum, and he shift gears nicely into the moma dance. this one gets deep, nasty, and funky. not super long or anything, just an exceptional version. then they jump into a rediculous reba. this one leaves any semblence of reba far behind. they hit some nice spacey realms before storming back up into a seriously rocking jam. this jam really starts to turn onto a familiar street. is it...could it be...bammo.. walk away! page really belts this one out. after teasing in champaigne the year before, many fans were waiting for this one to make its full throttle return. there is a quick jam after walk away that turns into a very nice simple. this simple does its thing as it peters out into alburquerque. this is a perfect spot to drop this recently added neil young cover. then a nice quick but very introspective david bowie goes on to close this one. trey and page work together really well to build this bowie jam. then they drop the debut of something on the crowd. they play this song so well. i caught it a couple of weeks later in cincinatti. either way, this show is all about the reba jam!

highlights:

set 1:
mcgrupp

set 2:
reba>walk away>simple(must hear reba!)
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Review by hansokolow

hansokolow Still one of my all-time favorite shows, it managed to stand out, even coming right before the unbelievable Vegas weekend two-nighter. I was lucky enough - no, smart enough to go to all three of those shows. They are all favorites. It was a gorgeous night, and yes, that place is lovely with excellent sound. We love the LA Greek, almost as much as the Berkeley Greek. The slow songs that pop up in the first set felt just fine in this place, honestly. It's a major downshift into Roggae, but listen to the crowd on the audience tape just love the song choice. I hear it. Roggae had a long way to go before it matured into what it is now, but this was a great early version. Driver was very special, very intimate.

I remember that, initially, I left this show really impressed by the Reba, but it was how amazingly they nailed the composed section, rather than the jam. I was just blown away by how effortlessly they rip through the insane hard parts of the song. There were a lot of covers this night, getting us warmed up for the Halloween weekend (what will they play?!), and I remember Walk Away being really fun. I had no idea what a bust-out it was. And the Something encore really made an impression. It is just fucking flawless, and if you're gonna play that song, you have to play it flawlessly. It's too important a song. And they did it. The crowd fucking loved that encore, it was very special on what could have been just a warm-up night.

I also remember, during one of the hiatuses, listening to everything I had (on CD, kids), in order, starting in I think '96. And from '97 on, I had every show. So when I got into late '98, I was listening carefully for the first appearance of Trey's reverse delay effect that became THE thing in '99. You know what I'm talking about, the backwards Hendrix-y brain-melting effect. Trey leaned on it heavily in '99, and to great effect. We are thankful. But yeah, I wanted to know when it started, and it was here, I'm pretty sure. Prove me wrong, please. In any case, while I don't think Trey used it a whole lot in Vegas, it is all over this show. I thought that I had first heard it in Reba, of all places, but upon a re-listen last night, it starts in Llama, and then again in Birds, Zero, yes, Reba (at around 18 minutes), and Bowie, and maybe more songs too. It's the face-melter, and I love it. Trey still brings it out occasionally in jams, and always in First Tube.

Thank god the audience recordings are so good from this night. They should release this show, but I would still listen to the auds, probably.
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Review by Abe_Froman

Abe_Froman Like Ben above me, this is one of my favorites also. You probably already know about the Reba>Walk Away>Simple segment, but if you don't please stop reading now, download it, and get going!

No, the Reba is incredible, builds into a jam that is simply other-worldly, then slides into a Walk Away that is joyous rock and roll, and the Simple's pretty sweet as the cherry on top. Really good Bowie to close the set too.

The first set definitely has a "opening set of the tour" feel to it, but if you like what Phish was doing in the fall of 1998, you'll really like this set. The two acoustic tunes are a real treat, and if you like stage banter, listen to Trey and Page after Driver, and the "men in their heads."

Oh, one other thing. Brand new Beatles song as an encore!

I didn't attend this show, but I imagine if you were there on that Thursday up in the hills above LA in Griffith Park, you were pretty pleased.
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Review by fhqwhgads

fhqwhgads I really liked listening to this show for the first time just now, even though I'm kind of moody today. Julius is a great choice for an opener, IMO. Driver, Sleep, Frankie Says kinda zonked me, but McGrupp brought me back around. I'd venture the opinion that McGrupp briefly goes Type II in this version. I must've missed the Super Bad tease in Moma, but I sure got excited about that Type-II Reba (-> Walk Away -> Simple!) Albuquerque is a great song, but it makes me kinda forlorn to hear it, because of connotations with the hiatus and all those complicated feels. Something encore is perfect for this phan, though. Excelsior!
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Review by Bootchmagoo

Bootchmagoo Going to be listening to all of Fall 98 in order - will be reviewing each show. Not much of a creative writer and these are mostly for me anyways.

Set1: Pretty standard first set, not really anything special for the first half or so. Decent playing by Trey on Llama but then they slow it down into LXL, Driver, Sleep, Frankie Says....super weird song placement as another reviewer said. Standard BoaF which leads us to the best part of set 1. Super solid version of McGrupp that starts to get pretty creative towards the end jam. Zero closer to bring us into setbreak.

Set2/encore: Starts off with a pretty standard Possum with some solid playing from Trey but next is where the magic starts to happen. Moma is awesome, super bouncy with Mike leading the charge. One of the better versions in my opinion from 98 (Gorge and Deer Creek better though IMO). Reba > Walk Away > Simple the highlight of the show - Reba starts with some ambient space and continues to build then finally releases towards the end. Super creative interplay from the whole band on this one then into a rockin Walk Away. Rest of the show is pretty standard IMO with a Beatles tune taboot for the encore (im a sucker for the fab 4).

3.5/5 for me
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Review by spreaditround

spreaditround Julius: A bit sloppy before the jam. Solid enough version and plenty of energy to open up the set, show, and tour.

Roggae: Nice and mellow, California vibe. Nice juxtaposition to what came before it and after it.

Llama: Trey has some nice sustain early on. This gets pretty gnarly with all kinds of crazy sounds coming out of Trey’s guitar. Early 90’s Llama aficionado’s might not like this one. I believe this is the first time Trey used the reverse reverb/delay effect?

Limb By Limb: Decent version with fun banter at the end. Trey eggs Fish on to do his amazing ending solo.

Driver: Acoustic. Funny banter about calling the song The Man Inside my Head or as Page wanted to call it The Man Inside my Little Head. LOL

Sleep: Acoustic. Love this tune.

Frankie Says: Wow, this set is very mellow at this point. Great tune – but the placement is not great.

Birds of a Feather: About as vanilla as they get.

McGrupp and the Watchful Hosemasters: This one gets very quiet and ambient. Page leads of course. At about 5:57 you could about hear a pin drop. This version fits the mood of most of this set. Very chill. Very laid back. It’s a good version but I would consider it a stand out. It is a jam chart version, but not a yellow version. >

Character Zero: Fishman seems to like this one as he let’s go of a bawdy yalp in the middle section. Trey is really working that reverse reverb/delay effect in this jam. For this reason alone you might want to check this out seeing as how – I think – this is basically the

SET 2: Possum: Ripping and running! Lots of fun here. Nice way to open the second set with a bunch of energy, crowd seems pretty into this one. >

The Moma Dance: Love the brief theme Trey catches around 3:10 and rides for about 20 seconds before the lyrics start. Other than that beforementioned theme, this version is pretty by the book. >

Reba: Fish is stellar on the wood blocks! This is the longest version they have ever played. Check out Trey at 9:45, it’s almost like he is playing bass. Very unique. Type II is realized around 11:20. Loops about 30 seconds later. Very ambient and chill. From here things get…psychedelic. Loops! Very, very moody at 15;15, it’s almost like there is an argument going on through the music with the band. Fish is aggressive on the cymbals like trying to move it forward and out of the current space. Trey fast strumming some pornofunk type stuff in the early 16’s. By the 17’s, things are feeling strange and uncomfortable. At home with a good set of headphones this is a bit hair raising, can’t imagine how odd this would have felt at the show. Quite sinister and dark. Here comes Trey’s reverse reverb at 18:18. Things are getting even weirder if that was even possible. This ramps up into an incredibly tense space. With 28 seconds left in this jam you can hear Trey start to angle for Walk Away. So sludgy going into WA, it’s GREAT ->

Walk Away: The jam kicks off and not long after here comes that reverse delay at 3:39, nice! This only last for a few seconds and then the jam goes back into regular WA territory but only momentarily. Just 30 seconds or so later it is totally going Type II. Almost a heavy metal jam. Definitely hard rocking. You can every so briefly hear Trey angle for Simple about 20 seconds beforehand. But, outside of that, you really cannot hear it coming. It is basically a slam segue ->

Simple: Will always wonder why they didn’t go for it here. >

Albuquerque: For the casual fan and observer – this might have just seemed like another cool cover. Looking back and for the insiders – this was a peak behind the curtain of the band’s mood and party appetites. Things were changing – and fast. When Trey hits that lick at 2:49, it’s enough to make your heart break into a million pieces.

David Bowie: That effect that hits at :39, oh man. That is the goods. This has such a jazzy feel in the early going parts of the jam. Almost like Dog Log around the late 8’s or early 9’s! This continues to evolve into something that is so cool but breaks back into typical Bowie territory around the early 10 minute mark. Worth checking out! For whatever reason Trey gets ants in his pants shortly after this and starts some high paced jamming. By the 12:30 mark though he is getting into the reverse delay stuff briefly. Based on Fishman’s playing around 13:25, they are heading for the wrap up. The run they take at the climax is unfortunately forced and inorganic. This is over at 15:35, don’t let the 18 minute timing fool you.

ENCORE:

Something: Wow. Pretty cool. One of only four played, all on this tour.

Summary: Decent tour opener. Throw away first set. It was, you can admit it. Set two had much more to offer. That Reba is an easy all timer, so sick. Type II! Walk Away was nasty. But from there, not much to chew on. Would rate this as a 3.7/5. Current rating of 4.2/5 is a joke but with only 88 ratings the sample size is skewed.

Replay Value: Reba, Walk Away
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